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Emma Steven's avatar

Nothing helpful to say other than I really appreciate the mix of cursing with hard science because it speaks to my inner rage at Maha and my science geek at the same time. ❤️

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Corina's avatar

This one was especially enjoyable in its feistiness!

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Karen Rile's avatar

I love the miss of real science & cursing, too!

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S. Levin's avatar

Sorry, but cursing detracts from the quality of the post.

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Ellie Alive In 25's avatar

My Aunt had a dairy farm. She had five children. They drank milk from the supermarket, not the barn.

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Leslie R. Schover's avatar

I wonder if the Goop marketing team is preparing several new products: Raw Creme Vaginal Douche, for one. And if you use it, not only will it "balance" your vaginal microbiome, but your vaginal odeur will match that of two new Vaginal Candle variations: Eau de Gwyneth Gardnerella and for nostalgic millennials and their Gen Alpha daughters: Smells Like Teen Bird Flu.

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S. Levin's avatar

Eu de Gwyneth Gardnerella -- I love it!

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Vicky's avatar

How and where does one acquire such skill at grotesque imagery?! Was it part of your particular phd program?

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Leslie R. Schover's avatar

Actually I am a psychologist and spent much of my career advocating for better patient education on reproductive health. Writing skills help. That is why I am such a fan of The Vajenda.

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Tara's avatar

Oh, this had me rolling & snort-laughing!

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Rosalind 🍁's avatar

Thank you for this, so informative but also oddly entertaining. Is raw milk possibly linked to the strange increase in tuberculosis in recent years and/or does TB connect more to the increase in poverty and crowded living spaces?

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Dr. Jen Gunter's avatar

TB from raw milk is primarily seen in young children, and I think it accounts for 5% or so of cases.

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Rosalind 🍁's avatar

Not a risk worth taking with one’s children. My mother’s sister had TB as a teenager in the early forties. In the end doctors collapsed the one lung involved which probably saved her life but left her very fragile physically although incredibly strong personally. She died in her fifties.

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MS's avatar

So good. Thank you. These people are such cherry pickers when it comes to science. No medicine etc but do they realize how much science went into their hair color, Botox, cars, running shoes, to name a few? Ugh. As the kids say, I can’t.

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Andrea's avatar

Actually we now know the science behind hair straighteners and it looks ugly. Hair straighteners have been linked to cancer and have been used so extensively in the African American community that even little children have been exposed and frequently. The crossroads where racism and greed intersect…

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MS's avatar

Yes, 100%. What I mean is that they forget that science itself goes into EVERYTHING. So when they decide to believe/not believe, they make very convenient choices for themselves (I guess we all do but hopefully we make changes and don’t double down out of foolish pride and $$$ to be made).

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Nancy Garcia's avatar

I’m so tired of Gwyneth Paltrow, and I’m delighted to hear that her brand is flagging.

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Corina's avatar

You may be onto something with your hocus-pocus hallowed flame version of pasteurization - if this sciencing gig doesn't pan out for you I think you're sitting on a goldmine of an idea there 😉

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Catherine Miller's avatar

Thanks for spelling it out so clearly.

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Kathy Hughes's avatar

Drinking raw milk is just asking for trouble. Making it commercially available was banned for sound public health reasons. Our current government is taking the concept of public health away with its antivax stances and now raw milk.

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Jacqueline Brinsmead's avatar

I can't decide if DJT's administration wants most people to be poor and desperate of if he simply wants them dead.

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Dominika's avatar

Somehow we seem to be going backwards on everything. What a time to be alive.

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S. Levin's avatar

Sigh...

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Follow The Money - cui bono's avatar

When I was little, about 60 years ago, we had a cow. My father would milk the cow, and my mother would boil the milk. Of course, it tasted like boiled milk (not great) but my mother was not going to allow us to become ill by drinking raw milk.

Maybe this is just another way to weed out the extremists? Let them drink raw milk. Maybe we can get them to forgo refrigeration of any kind while they're at it.

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Andrea's avatar

Nothing like drinking a petri-dish full of bacteria..

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Catriona Muir's avatar

Jesus - “shitting myself for weeks”! I howled thinking celebrities like Paltrow probably consider it a cleanse.

As a food safety specialist who has worked in the dairy industry, I do find this type of misinformation appalling

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Waiting for Homo Superior's avatar

I grew up rural and poor and we drank raw milk from our cow. While all of us kids were fine there’s no way I’d EVER go back to drinking raw milk because I know what it’s like. The cow would swish her tail, getting flecks of hay and god-knows-what into the pail. The milk had to be strained before we could drink it. It was only good for a couple of days before it would start to sour. In the summer flies would be all around. I realize production is cleaner than on a farm but still the bacteria will grow…

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Hera's avatar

It is not as simple as raw and pasteurized milk. Here is an NZ diary company describing how they process milk. I won't drink their milk if I can possibly help it because it is highly processed - not just pasteurized but standardised and several other steps that increase the shelf-life, the products that they can extract from it and their profits. I believe the reason that Goop etc are so popular is because foods that used to be minimally processed (bread is another one) are now degraded by these processes.

I drink organic, permeate free, single farm origin, non-homogenised pasteurized milk. I hope the cows are also treated more humanely. It's more than twice the price - I can afford this. Many people can't. I don't think we should be telling people decisions about food are simple.

https://www.anchordairy.com/nz/en/about-us/our-quality-promise-trusted-goodness/how-is-the-milk-made.html

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Kelly's avatar

As usual all of the “wellness” pseudoscience garbage is for people who can afford it. Some people need a way to feel superior to others - if it’s harder to get and more expensive then it must be better! I myself fall victim to certain things - (skincare being one of them - I LOVE me some luxe overpriced skincare and I KNOW there are cheaper alternatives that work just as well). But when it comes to the blatant misinformation that is put out there by supplement, raw milk (etc) shilling celebrities and “doctors” I have no tolerance. Also, why are so many wealthy white women lactose intolerant, gluten sensitive…oh right - disguised diet culture. I could go on…. Love your content Dr Gunter!

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